Mixed feelings about Eurovision rule change

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Mixed feelings about Eurovision rule change

Even if the organisers of the 2013 Eurovision Song Contest in Malmö have been repeatedly saying how they want to go back to making a good television show above all, few could have expected what a bombshell today’s announcement of a rule change would be amongst the fans of the contest. The running order will no longer be decided by drawing of lots, but the producers will decide what they think will make for the best television show, by separating similar songs from each other. But many fans fear the integrity and fairness of the contest element for the oldest televised entertainment show will be lost.

This has created a heated reaction within the community; Eurovision fans do feel some aspects of the contest are and should be sacrosanct. Indeed, the running order has always been decided by lots during the contest history of 56 years. Similarly, it has been claimed that the tradition of countries only giving marks to their top ten songs, with the iconic douze points (in place since 1975) cannot be changed, even if in the era of televoting all songs do receive votes and they could easily all be tallied up to the final result. The fan community is at heart conservative, and changes to the contest are not usually accepted easily. It could be argued that one of the attractions of the contest is, that some aspects of it remain the same from year to year in a world, where everything else is changing constantly.

There are however also those in support of the change. Keith Mills, who runs the Irish Eurovision blog All kinds of everything is happy with the decision. This is actually something I have been advocating for years to happen, he says. It is good as it stops “bunching” of certain types of song. You can get a run of ballads or uptempo/choreographed song going back to back and killing each other off, Mr. Mills says. Some other commentators also have expressed that the fan community may be overreacting to an issue, that has little relevance for the greater audience on the night. What the audiences at home want, is an entertaining show, it is claimed.

The running order of the Swedish Melodifestivalen has for years been decided by the production team, to make for best variety of entertainment. This has however lead to the fan community seeing bias and unfairness in the order of performance, and it has been claimed the organisers’ favourites to win will always get certain start positions. It has now been already feared by many fans, that the organisers of Eurovision Song Contest now can through the running order manipulate the outcome of the voting. The Swedish organisers do say on the official SVT Eurovision website that this change was initiated by the Swedish host broadcaster for 2013. When you are writing a book, you will want to decide the order of the chapters, Executive Producer Martin Österdahl is saying to melodifestivalen.se.  In every music programme it is the producers, who decide the running order. Eurovision has been the only exception to that rule, he concludes.

The Eurovision Event Supervisor Sietse Bakker is addressing the critics on his public Facebook post: The response to the announcement that the running order of the Eurovision Song Contest will be determined by the producers is rather surprising. We have applied the same principle at the Junior Eurovision Song Contest for ten (!) years and it worked out fine. It made better television and there was never the slightest doubt about the integrity of the producers, he says. Did anyone consider that by giving each country a spot around different songs means everyone has the chance to stand out, and that we’ll actually get a better flow in the show? If the Reference Group and the Television Committee approve this decision, it might actually make sense.

This rule change has been approved by the Eurovision Song Contest Reference group:

Chairperson: Frank-Dieter Freiling (ZDF/Germany)
Members: Bruno Berberes (FR3/France), Christer Björkman (SVT/Sweden), Dejan Kukric (BHRT/Bosnia-Herzegovina), Thomas Schreiber (ARD/NDR/Germany), Maarten Verhaeghen (VRT/Belgium), Adil Kerimli (Ictimai TV/Azerbaijan)

In addition to the now decided rule, it has been decided that to allow better ticket allocation for the two semi-finals, the two closest neighbours to Sweden have been allocated separate semi-finals. The other countries will still be placed in the two semi-finals based on statistics of voting patterns in previous years, but the order will no longer be a random decision. The Reference Group and the EBU TV committee will also have to approve the proposed running order.

The fan community is reacting, and mostly negatively, on websites and blogs, here and here in German, and there are already online petitions demanding that EBU reverse the decision, as it is feared by many that the contest element of the show will be compromised. On the Esctoday.com Facebook page the reactions are for the majority negative, while some do trust the end result will justify the controversial decision:

Neil Hood: It’s all fixed anyway so let them get on with it

Ian Howell: The only fair way is to have a draw. I can’t imagine any country being happy about being designated to perform second.

David Healy: Goodbye Eurovision Song CONTEST.

Lloyd Bingham: What a good idea. I’ve always wanted Eurovision to be more corrupt and fake like X Factor.

Paul Leech: Based upon the fact that the draw clearly affects the chances of winning, the producers run a huge risk of changing this from a contest into a TV concert. Very foolish idea I think

Matthew James BlakemoreI trust in SVT they are awesome, they’ll get it right

Alexander James Curry:  I’m a bit unsure, but it would be good to break up the ballads and up tempo songs from being lumped together. Think Estonia 2011 suffered from being in a very ‘poppy’ group of about 5. Think it would have done better next to a ballad!

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Juha Repo
Juha Repo

Juha has been following Eurovision Song Contest since the 1960s. Writing for www.esctoday.com since 2008, and other websites before that. A Finn living in London.


11 Comments

  1. Cop20
    November 11, 2012 at 19:39

    And why comparing Bosnia to Slovenia? Norway qualified for example :P Why not saying Slovenia should have been there instead of Norway :) At the end, Norway had truly trashy song. Maya Sar was pure class.


  2. Cop20
    November 11, 2012 at 19:38

    I don’t see any problem. Bosnia would have qualified in both cases (televoting or jury vote), Slovenian wouldn’t in any. Their song had some predictable “cuteness” at the beginning (that melody in the background) but chorus was so wrong, just bad rhythm. I mean, I can understand why people didn’t vote for it.


  3. Lina
    November 9, 2012 at 20:25

    @Cop20 ok i can accept that ex yugo countries have same stars ( although this is unfair in voting beacuse ex yugo are many countries ) but imo Slovenian song was better than Bosnian. As for Ukraine … i dont care which place got in final… my problem is that this country make it to the final with trush song ( beacuse of immigrants and ex soviet countries big help ), and beacuse of that a good song stay in semi. Anyway.. draw must to stay like it is, beacuse if they change it NOBODY will trust this contest any more. We have already too much cheaters we dont want and the organisers to help them …


  4. Olezhka
    November 9, 2012 at 20:08

    I miss the rules which was used in 2008


  5. Karl P.
    November 9, 2012 at 12:48

    I am happy with what SVT is doing to the contest… except for this one.

    This is a bad idea. Why not just a random draw. In fact I say there should be a more random draw so the contest would be more varied.


  6. Cop20
    November 9, 2012 at 10:44

    And Lina, about Croatia… They’ve sent Nina… it would be like if UK sends Adele and other countries (in which Adele is very famous) vote for her no matter the song. That’s why we in Ex-Yu have voted for Croatia. Because Nina is mega star here.


  7. Cop20
    November 9, 2012 at 10:42

    @Lina

    Ukraine and Georgia had bad songs and they both placed 17th and 18th in televoting in second semi final. So, your argument is invalid.
    And did you say Bosnia had a bad song? :D


  8. Eurovisionary
    November 9, 2012 at 03:00

    I don’t mind the idea to make the show vibrant, I’m against straight out placement and manipulation. The most highly regarded factors in the draw is start near first or near last. Who would get the last place? MF puts the “best” song last in both the last semi and in the final, and therefore it prejudices the vote in terms of the better placement plus the status of being the “anointed” best song.

    Comparing to MF is nonsense because most of Sweden knows already the songs and especially the artists so there’s less room for bias from the show. At ESC, the vast bulk are watching totally fresh so there they can be influenced.

    As a compromise, ESC should group the songs by ballad, pop, dance, ethnic, etc, and then draw a song from each pot to fill the slots predermined as these categories in the running order. FIFA does similar with its World Cup draw.

    As for the voting, that could be expanded to match the times. 26 songs in the final now, whereas in early ESC days it was 10. So the 10 slots of points covered most songs. Now it could be extended to 15 slots. After 12 points, I’d go 14, 16, 19, 22 and 25.


  9. Lina
    November 9, 2012 at 02:36

    Bad idea ! Its better to find a formula for the draw …for example last year in 2 semi was 5 ex yugo countries ( from six ) and that influense the 2 semifinal results: Bosnia took ONLY from the other ex yugo countries 27 points. Croatia took 39 points , FYR Macedonia took 29 points, Serbia took 44 points and Slovenia took 27 points. Of course some of this countries deserve to be in the final ( imo exept Bosnia who make it and Croatia who whas almost to make it ) but even with bad songs again will exchange same points. Of course ex soviet countries do same thing but for them is more compligate to separate them with a balance beacuse theyr 10 countries !!!! EBU must find a solution for ex soviet block beacuse even and with juries again they exchange together the highest points ( 6 , 7, 8, 10 and 12 ) and always we have 5 – 6 from 10 ex soviet countries in the final even and if they dont deserve it ( for example Ukraine this year )..


  10. Benjamin Johnson
    November 9, 2012 at 00:53

    Stupid idea.


  11. andre _
    November 8, 2012 at 02:04

    this is a really BAD idea. Eurovision is not X factor. Part of the excitement of esc fans is the draw, it should not be taken away from them. Please Sweden dont make such changes to esc


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